Charles Lepani relates how after going to university in NSW, he received a scholarship from the ACTU to attend the University of PNG through Australian ACTU industrial advocate Bob Hawke who had come to PNG to work with Michael Somare, Reuben Taureka and others in the public service wage case, and Public Service Association executives Paul Munro and Ron Madgwick. The scholarship was for trade unionists, and Lepani relates how he spent time at Bob Hawke's home in Sandringham, Victoria, also meeting Bob Carr, then involved in the NSW Trades Hall Council.

Josephine Abaijah discusses the reaction of others in parliament to the Papua Besena movement, the lack of support from other Papuans in parliament because she was a woman and the research that Papuans have since conducted into their own history. She recalls making arrangments to visit Australia but no government minister would meet with her resulting in her use of demonstrations back in PNG.